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Overheard in LA

Table full of high-maintenance West Side bitches at La Salsa. You know the type; immaculately done up, thin, heavily made up, beautiful, carefully done hair, perpetually sour expression on their joyless faces due to spending all their time at the gym or shopping, rather than enjoying any of life's non-materialistic pleasures. One says to the other; "Dating sucks. The other night I went on a date, and the guy I'm out with asks me "What do you think of exisistentialism?" What a loser. Like I've cared about that since freshmen philosophy. Hello?"

She was right about one thing - dating her would suck.


Aug. 30th, 2007 05:24 pm (UTC)
Massive MASSIVE difference between being an intellectual and trying to seem an intellectual. Try to use it? Give me a break - that IS a loser move. That's no different than a rich guy pulling out his black card to show it to a woman as opposed to simply using in when something is needed to be paid for. Granted, we only have your snapshot, but sounds like the guy awkwardly tried to showoff his faux-intellectualism by inserting this clumsy question into conversation. That's supposed to impress? What happens if his plan goes awry and she DOES have thoughts on the matter? I bet dollars to donuts he was planning to paraphrase what he learned in "Freshman Philosophy" to impress. Really, its a weak strategy (if one even accepts the premise strategy is called for at all).

If you're smart, it simply becomes apparent in your conversation - and conversation is far from the hardest ship to steer. If that girl is smart, she isn't going to be impressed by someone who tries to "act smart". She's going to be impressed by someone who makes intelligent statements and asks intelligent questions germane to what's being discussed. I know your point here is to bemoan the relative difficulty of impressing a woman with one's intelligence and knowledge as opposed to the relative ease of showing how rich, good-looking or well-dressed one is. Still, you're a smart guy- try using a few other tools of intelligent people, namely wit, subtlety and listening ability. You'll find it far more effective than that guy did waving his intellectual "dick" around so everyone could see how big it is.

::gets off soapbox::

Oh, and did the girl you overheard actually add an extra syllable to existentialism? Cause that's pretty HAWT.
Aug. 30th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC)
Again, I point to the fact that the woman drew no objection to the man being a poser, or pretentious: but specifically that she just didn't care about philosophy. Since we're all drawing conclusions from a sub-text which isn't in, or implied by, the bit that I overheard - I'll take a turn. They were discussing film, specifically art cinema (this is LA, after all) and the works of Lars Von Triers came up. He asks, tangentially, but related - "What do you think of existentialism?" as an opener to how that bleak world view has impacted film.

She, however, is a shallow plastic-person, and loathes anything which is not materialistic. He is a loser because he has an intellectual life. Had he whipped out his black card, or rattled on about his Benz, I daresay she would have been glowing about what a great guy she met.
Aug. 31st, 2007 01:30 am (UTC)
You are postulating this Lars VT bit to add a hypothetical angle that supports your theses? Or you left out that key piece of info out in your original post?

Regardless, my point: women respond favorably to confidence, wit, competence and yes, physical attractiveness and success (both of which can be variously defined). They don't respond well to lines, games, charades concocted to impress them, apparent lack of self-confidence and yes, to ugly men or ones who don't display the self satisfaction, confidence that comes with being successful on one's terms, or outward common trappings of success. Honestly, it's quite the same for men - or did you find yourself attracted to this woman you observed despite her venal, shallow nature?

Fake doesn't work well for anyone.
Aug. 31st, 2007 04:14 pm (UTC)
I'm speculating just like everyone else is speculating - if y'all can just make stuff up not supported by the text, I can too!


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